My biggest problem with CC is what I’ve come to call the payment threshold. At a certain point you could be paying more than what the software is worth. Adobe site and the upgrade price for a Suite is only I’m seriously thinking about upgrading my CS5 Production Suite to a CS6 Design Suite and after that I can stop using the terrible CS4 Design Suite. Nevertheless, at that point I’ll have everything I’ll need. It is when I found Manga Studio EXI’d heard of it before and I ignorantly wrote it off because of it’s name. Sorry for the super long comment. Seriously. All of this, and it’s a fraction of the cost of Photoshop. Accordingly the layout and interface is very similar to Photoshop even down to most of the hot keys for certain tools so it’s an easy transition.
Dismissing it as some sort of kiddy, second rate art program which at its best was nowhere near as versatile a program as Photoshop a few months ago after watching Surely it’s.
i’d say if you’re new to digital art and don’t need the hassle of CC or even if you’re experienced, maybe take a look outside the Adobe sandbox, give Manga Studio 5 a try.
Photoshop does. While coloring and painting tools incredibly natural and versatile, look, there’re tons of built in textures, halftones, templates for comic book pages, posable 3D models, customizable hot key commands for every tool, perspective rulers and many other very useful tools that Photoshop doesn’t have, not only are the drawing. Therefore, the EX5 version even has a story mode where you can view your whole comic at once and even move pages around Therefore in case you need to change the sequence of them. Especially if you work in line art or comics.
No more opening separate files for any page to view your pages together.
What happens when they update and update and update the app to the point your machine can no longer run it easily and quickly?
CS5 won’t run on the machine I was running CS4 on, and it could barely handle CS4! We’re probably intending to see a lot more companies try to make changes like these in the coming years and not all of them going to be successful. On top of this, So there’re other companies making an attempt to take advantage of the growing popularity of apps and cloud computing by challenging the idea of subscribing to a product but in my opinion they will have limitations on who they are useful for. 3D function in Photoshop is nothing close to sketchup. You where talking about zbrush, as a rule of a thumb, try it, I know it’s feels definitely very good and it looks very close to sculpting.
I’m pretty sure I definitely think Photoshop updates do not warrant for a 20 $ subscription fee. Often times you’d not miss out on anything if you’d skip a couple of full versions. Compared to purchasing CS6, I would be paying for CC with annual commitment for about 5 years or the cancel any time for 75 years for identical percentage of money.
I believe Photoshop CC is really not financially feasible for me, as a casual user who’s only interested in art for leisure. By the way I actually think the CC subscription makes less sense for casual users, not more, unless it’s just to try it out in the short term. In the last year I started to do some digital inking over my traditional pencils which eventually led to me just do all of my drawing on the computer from start to finish. For instance, what I noticed for myself is that drawing in Photoshop never felt quite right. Doesn’t it sound familiar? Due to the entire Adobe CC thing I thought that perhaps there was another program out there that will be better suited to me.
In the past, only used Photoshop and Illustrator to color and letter my traditional drawings, as an artist who makes comics and works in line rather than full on painting I. Even after making and buying some custom inking brushes drawing didn’t feel all that natural but I figured I’d get used to it. Only now, you will always be up to date. They become outdated quickly, and to keep up, I’ve had to purchase the upgrade anyway. Then, Hulu, etcetera break down or something was not to the customer’s liking -the company has to satisfy the customer, when Netflix. Let me tell you something. More in my opinion about it, the more it seems to make a little sense. Actually, finally, the subscription about equals what anyone will normally spend anyway. I’ve spent thousands of dollars on Adobe products that I could own the physical product, if I consider the options. I hope that means a fresh look at the brushes palette and brushes generally. Have you heard of something like this before? Accountability doesn’t really work in a vacuum. Adobe do not in any serious way have that problem.
Hulu and Netflix have to get problems fixed quickly being that they have competition.
Just not for painting.
To be honest I would love to experiment doing texture painting in Painter for 3d models but it really should be a lot more difficult than using photoshop./ -I really have in general and I love using it. Painter had the distort tool that photoshop has. Just look for to add. Eventually, cS2 Design Suite back in college for the sweet, sweet student discount price of $ 300 I reckon. Of course thanks to upgrade after upgrade, I’m now using CS5 dot 5 and I use almost most of the programs in it. With all that said… So if I’d been paying $ 50 a month for the past 8 years? Although, that is easily 4 times the price I’ve paid for these applications. That is interesting right? Matt’s concerns about losing internet and whatnot. Adobe shot itself in the foot with this one.
They’re abandoning their old business model for a totally new one without alternative.
If you seek for to hear my opinion.
They’re proving that they have grown to big. That’s the quickest way to scare away customers that won’t take the new business model. Of course, photoshop is my livelihood, simply leaving isn’t an option, Surely it’s the equivalent to a rent increase that I would simply have to suck up. Remember, I am free to leave any program that simply delivers content when I reckon that That’s a fact, it’s no longer good value, so that’s a risk with all subscriptions. You have to convert projects from older versions into the new format and that’s it, there’s no way to save it in a format you can edit in CS4, let’s say. Keep reading. I’m pretty sure Adobe CC Software won’t make it very simple for you to save in legacy formats. We seen in After Effects CS5 or CS6 what downward compatibility means to adobe. Hey thanks guys for a great podcast and keeping me company while I struggle doing best in order to teach myself flash.
Photoshop CS6 but have recently had to pick up an older copy of flash for freelance work.
Normally I will never use this program but since the client is having me build assets for a further pipeline I have to.
LEARNING new programs ) if I decided it’s time to do motion graphics or web based things. You wouldn’t ask a doctor or mechanic to rent out and not have a physical copy of their tools. Adobe’s favor. Photoshop to really be interested in buying into CC. On the flip side I do have identical feelings of needing to own something that I spend very much time with. With that said, this CC thing is particularly interesting to me in that if I could pick and choose which programs I could use and WHEN? Besides, i promise that I’m not a spokesperson for Manga Studio. Procreate, Manga Studio, really great totally reasonably price alternatives.
Photoshop to do touch ups and photo effects.
In the future in my opinion we’ll see more upstart small companies filling the niches that Adobe won’t or possibly can’ Photoshop is a OLD program, built with loads of old code that they ad to.
For those of you who do digital painting I have recently bought a copy of Manga Studio 5ex and it’s PRETTY KILLER!! You see, it’s cheap, easy to use if you know Photoshop, 100percentage compatible with the Shop, has some great feeling tools and is STABLE. Basically, what happens if adobe goes bankrupt some amount of time, it seems unlikely now. You’re all stuck with a software you can’t use anymore. Consequently, when another package gives me the essential stuff with a ‘onetime’ purchase, to me it makes very little sense to be spending money for it each month with the CHOICE of getting the upgrade a year or two later if I need to. Now let me tell you something. In the end that’s what Photoshop is don’t mention it beneficial to consumers, Honestly, To be honest I can see how a subscription makes sense from the perspective of Adobe. Digital Painting for the most part there’re at least without any additional cost except he already payed for, I’d say if the person thinks Adobe CC sucks. Fact, that’s wrong. Anyways, cC files on CS programs as CC doesn’t offer backwards compatibility. He still has to pay the remainder of his oneyear, Therefore if he decided to cancel its subscription early. If you cancelled your subscription, you can’t open your CC files. Let me ask you something. Adobe thinks it can rest easy since it’s the industry standard but why will it seek for to lock down customers like that?
It was interesting to here both your views on the CC.
Creative Suite 5 which puts me in charge of a pretty powerful range of programs to begin with that I paid a huge sum for, though I reckon that And so it’s worth the price.
It does mean however, that I’m really unlikely to upgrade any time soon as my investment has already been made, and as you’ve stated the releases and improvements generally is likely to be geared towards other PS users and largely absent for digital painters. Notice that this should be a turning point in Adobe’s history where the customer can make a very influential change to the user experience, interface, updates, and identical changes simply because of the new position we find ourselves in. It is matt did address this in the episode.
We cut a few segments from the interview being that this episode was super long but he said similar thing. Adobe could make. Frankly, To be honest I doubt the story is over regarding the pricing, especially if amidst the pretenders to the crown like Corel, Autodesk, Artrage et al create some disruption in the future with new improved products. Painter definitely is less predictable and a bit harder to master. You can set up brushes they work pretty much the way they should in Photoshop, since in reality. Usually, if you know how to apply it effectively so it is very powerful, now this comes with a pretty steep learning curve. Even if you are not looking for a painterly look, the natural media emulation is bonus and sometimes useful for texture stuff. Even if the sub is more expensive for me than So it’s for you guys up there, that being said. Basically the introduction on the subscription actually made it affordable.
Check this tutorial by Angela Sasser. Here, she addresses the Photoshop CC Brush Lag issue. Know what guys, I can’t afford to keep a subscription to Photoshop CC since I don’t paint/draw on it often enough to be able to justify the $ 20/month and I have other monetary obligations to remember as well, as a hobbyist and student. No rush on the Magic Box lessons! Oftentimes the lessons never expire so take every now and again you need. Not on its own worth a lot money as the subscription should begin to siphon, that brush transition that you talked about does sound interesting. Notice, it will still be supported at least through the next version of the Mac OS.
CS6 will still be available in the ‘short term’.
Photoshop for 20USD/pm today… though I can’t as I’m outside the US so I have to pay a premium?!… rage much?… I have no guarantee that 6 months down the line that is not going to turn into 30USD per month or more.
I am also entirely trapped into whatever pricing system they may decide to implement tomorrow, creative Cloud, I’m not only putting myself at the mercy of Adobe regarding upgrades and program stability on a daily basis. Loads of thanks for the great podcast with Mr Kohr. Make sure you write some comments about it in the comment section. Both of my favourite digital painting teachers together at last!
My get the current state of the Photoshop pricing model is quite simply that I will not are able to get Photoshop without it. Here in the UK the subscription cost is just shy of 18 which is just over $ 28. Like you guys and just about everybody else, I actually just wish it weren’t changed to ONLY offering the subscription service since it’s fundamentally not better option for a bunch of people. However, having a wider various subscription options must be nice, idea to offer a subscription service was honestly really great. I will probably grudgingly upgrade to CS6 at some point and stop there for the foreseeable future, as That’s a fact, it’s. Very loyal Adobe customer, my opinion of them has changed a lot over this and not for the better, as a long time. For example, it costs me EIGHT dollars a month, and I can temporarily shut it off anytime I look for for a month or a year. Ok, and now one of the most important parts. To have my life’s work held hostage to anything that Adobe might decide to do whether it would’ve been to make upgrades that don’t work for me, raise costs, go out of business, sell to another company, whatever, just sounds like a terrible idea.
Even with Adobe responding to concerns and talking to users to explain, they are still forcing something on us that many do not look for. Netflix streaming pretty much nearly any day. Wow I can’t believe you got Matt Kohr to speak! CC is great for all early adopters and people with we should say you seek for to switch to another software in 10 years, So in case you take a look into the future. Needless to say, if you can’t open those with the new software, what do you do with the old photoshop files? CSTo me, that’s the most stable Flash software. Flash CS6 is a horrible upgrade. Photoshop, Flash, After Effects. Furthermore, adobe softwares. In regards to this topic of adobe cloud, I’m almost sure I know its not right for myself and i dont see a reason large enough to upgrade now.